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so i was updating the website at work yesterday and came across this site.
www.nationalcasa.org/

i am looking into volunteering. i had never heard of this program before, but it looks great.
today ross starts xmas carol, which means that i will only see him on mondays til xmas....
okay, that's not ENTIRELY true, but close enough. therefore i have altered my work schedule with my boss to have mondays off.
last night we watched resident evil....i DO NOT LIKE freaky movies with stuff that jumps out at you.
not even a little. and i am kicking myself because I NEED to know what happens next. grrrr.

i'm about 3/4 of the way through AFFC....sigh....it makes me deliriously happy. What will i do when it is done. so far i am finding it interesting rather than exciting...but that is good enough for me.

anywho, today i am heading over to luther seminary after work to make arrangements to use their library....it seems that my student id has expired there, and i need one in order to check out books, etc.

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Date: 2005-11-15 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirage897.livejournal.com
What's your new "Fuck Peta" icon about, just curious?

well...

Date: 2005-11-15 08:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2eclipse.livejournal.com
on one hand i'm just in an aggressive mood and like chicken.
mostly i got this icon for the fun of it.
on the other...
i am full of the rage of the formerly deceived. i'm ALL about stewardship, taking care of animals, and humane treatment of the earth and its inhabitants.
in junior high, i thought PETA was great. then i learned that they exaggerate stories and give worse-case scenarios and BEYOND THAT, they sometimes work to destroy the very institution that is preserving the lives of animals. i don't like that. i think that we DO need to be respectful of our fellow creatures, but in my book that means using humane, relatively painless practices for butchering, not forcing everyone to become vegetarian. in my book that means no animal testing for commercial products...but i'm not sure about outlawing drug testing on animals....and it definately doesn't mean getting rid of all domesticated animals so that they can "live free". we CHANGED them. they are NOT part of the natural ecosystem. we would do horrible damage if we let them into the wild. So i do have problems with organizations that advocate for these radical stances.



Re: well...

Date: 2005-11-15 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirage897.livejournal.com
What you say makes a lot of sense and I agree with 95% of it.

I think PETA can be radical. I agree that we should use animals for drug testing and not for cosmetics. I think PETA is stupid for there stance on that and other things.

As you may know, I am a vegetarian, but I am about as non "preachy" vegetarian as you will ever meet. I don't ask people for special accomodations and I am completely respectful of the choices people make in terms of what they eat.

I definitley agree with you on humane slaughter conditions. It's better to try and work to make sure the animals that people do eat are treated humanely and not slaughtered in cruel ways. That's a much better approach then pressuring everyone into becoming vegetarians.

And you are also 100% right on the domestic animals. We did change them over thousands of years of breeding. Some PETA nutcases say that milking a cow is "raping her." That's so stupid. If you don't milk a domestic cow, it gets sick because we bred it to produce more milk than its offspring can drink normall.y.

Re: well...

Date: 2005-11-15 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2eclipse.livejournal.com
thanks. it sounds like we really do agree...i don't have ANY problem with people becoming vegetarian in order to make a statement, or for any other reason. it is only the idea of forcing people who like meat (say me, for instance)to become grazers that i have difficulty with.;)

Re: well...

Date: 2005-11-15 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sooper.livejournal.com
Yet again, this other icon with the muppet cruelty is hilarious.

Re: well...

Date: 2005-11-15 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2eclipse.livejournal.com
teehee. thanks. i thought it appropriate.

Re: well...

Date: 2005-11-15 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sooper.livejournal.com
Yeah, you're very non-preachy about it. It's the one's who refuse to eat at the same table as you because you're eating meat that are weirdoes.

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Date: 2005-11-15 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sooper.livejournal.com
I'm a bad person, but I love this icon.

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Date: 2005-11-15 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2eclipse.livejournal.com
thanks.;)

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