i am sharing here a comment i left on [profile] christianleft because i think it's important

Nov. 7th, 2008 01:51 pm
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my dad - who is an 80 year old minister who grew up in the bible belt during the depression - said something to me when i was in college. he said. "i don't believe it can be wrong to be gay because i don't believe a loving God would put a bunch of people on this earth and condemn them to be lonely."

i don't think that's necessarily true. i think God does put people on this earth in circumstances which prevent them from ever having a satisfying romantic relationship(some forms of retardation or other disability for example, can, but do not necessarily prevent romance, and some conditions kill before ever allowing someone to hit puberty) - and some people like catholic monks are called to a life of celebacy (usually including free from romance).
but something about what my dad said struck a cord of truth for me. i do believe in a LOVING God, not a persecuting God. i don't think it is okay for humans to persecute one another and i do think that's what the mormon church did with their money. hiring someone to do it instead of doing it yourself doesn't make it christian.
and it is also an issue of skewed priorities. even if homosexuality is wrong (i remain unconvinced), there is very little in the bible against it. where as there is a LOT about hate, and poverty and kindness to one another. why aren't we spending our money on that? i am pretty much appalled by what the LDS church did.

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Date: 2008-11-07 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirage897.livejournal.com
It wasn't just the LDS, it was also bankrolled majorly by the Catholic Church and I have just about had it with my Catholic faith and heritage.

Unfortunately, as I have said before here over the years, that does not lean me towards finding another Christian church to replace it, it just pushes me to walk away from my faith competely. I don't miss it, it doesn't feel like a void in my life, and things like Prop 8 *unthinkingly* bias me against all of Christianity even though there were churches that vigoursly opposed it.

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Date: 2008-11-08 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabrina-pandora.livejournal.com
I think I covered this ground myself. And thus we come to why I'm agnostic.

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Date: 2008-11-08 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2eclipse.livejournal.com
see....i tried to be agnostic and it didn't work. faith isn't rational although it can be influenced by rational things. i believe in God whether i like it or not. i am a christian whether i like it or not. i've asked myself the hard questions and i believe anyway. but i also believe that GBLT's are God's beloved children. and mostly i believe that takes precedence over what they do. but i think the mormon's are God's beloved children as well, even when they're being unthinking, bigoted assholes. it's very disheartening.

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