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so i finally got off my ass and took a look at the positions of barak obama and hillary clinton....and honestly, i thought i would really be persuaded and like obama's views. and i did....until i got to his positions on education.
now some of what he has to say about this is fine....but my big problem comes from his position on HOW he thinks about improving schools....he wants to use more standards and tests to do it.
as someone who has worked in the school system and seen how much a teacher's creativity plays into whether or not students are interested in learning - and how having to teach to standards and tests limits that creativity - i am emphatically against this direction of improving schools. i think our emphasis on testing and standards is part of what is hurting our school systems. teachers are often treated as baby-sitters and dis-empowered by parents every which way from being able to do their job well. not that it is always the parents fault. if you are too poor to move out of a neighborhood where gangs are a threat and your kid is too scared and focused on fear to learn well - that is not the teacher's or the parent's fault. and certainly there are kids with the resilience to do well under extremely strenuous circumstances.
but i think there is a problem with the expectation that we CAN standardize learning. education is NOT business and it is ineffective and unreasonable to think about it that way. sure, you can have some standards for quality of teachers, but the fact is, not all kids are created equal. kids can have a hard time learning and many learning disabilities go undiagnosed. many learning disabilities go hand-in-hand with giftedness in other areas, so that dumbing down the class creates boredom rather than the hoped-for success. this is one way kids slip through the cracks that testing and standards worsen instead of fixing.
another problem is that when kids don't learn at speed, they are often passed even though they do not meet the educational standards of the next grade. they know less than their peers and can fall even further behind because they don't understand the basics they need to continue. we can blame teachers for this, but often teachers are passing the kids because they fear that the emotional damage done to the child by being held back and forced to learn will A) do worse damage to their progress than being advanced and B) potentially turn them into a bully because they are larger than the other kids - and therefore damage the chance of other kids to learn by creating a fearful environment. it is really a damned-if-you-do/damned-if-you-don't situation. it would be nice if every kid advanced this way could be held for mandatory tutoring after school, or if anti-intellectual parents could be curbed from encouraging their kids to under-achieve. but there are all kinds of legal problems that come up when these potential solutions are attempted.

education is NOT business. in a business you can get rid of all the less-than-standard raw materials that will not make a good end product. but our government guarantees education to ALL children in this country, not only the ones that are college material, or that care about school or that have the resilience and support to overcome their disabilities and obstacles. children are not blueberries or wood or steel. we cannot scrap them if they do not meet our standards -nor do we have the right to judge them worthless. they are human beings and we need to quit treating them as though they are merely numbers.
i object to hillary clinton's strong position regarding gun control, but it is less important to me than the type of investment we make in the education and treatment of our children. barak obama will have to look for votes elsewhere.

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Date: 2007-04-22 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dybbuk67.livejournal.com
Please, please, please take a look at John Edwards.
As soon as he reads this, [livejournal.com profile] boztopia will ask the same of you.


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Date: 2007-04-22 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2eclipse.livejournal.com
i remember liking edwards during the last campaign. i have a LOT more research to do. i spent my time on these two because they are the ones being talked about the most in the media up here and i wrote this because i was so surprised that a popular democrat could have such an abyssmal understanding of the education system. i worry that these issues could be overlooked by the people who read my journal. my looking at candidates is by no means done.

You better believe it

Date: 2007-04-23 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boztopia.livejournal.com
Here is Edwards' platform on poverty, which he rightly ties closely to education and the lack of. It's brief, but I think you'll like what he has to say.

I support Edwards because he is, to me, the most "real" of the three candidates. His positions speak to the issues I care about, which are central to the health and future of our country: Education. Health care. Eliminating poverty. Given the lost and forgotten a second chance.

He's not a rock star like Obama or an expert pol like Hillary, and I don't give a damn about his haircuts. Stuff like that is being disseminated to discredit him. When it comes to the issues, he speaks to me more readily than any other candidate running, and he's got my vote as long as he's in the race

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Date: 2007-04-22 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kozzie1317.livejournal.com
I like Obama from what I've seen of him, but I definitely don't know enough about him to make a good, educated decision yet. I couldn't agree more with your stance on education. Where do you find information on the candidates like this? I guess I could look at their official websites, but I'd like to find something that wasn't that biased.

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Date: 2007-04-22 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2eclipse.livejournal.com
these are the cites i used. it is in the best interest of the candidates for people to know what they stand for...so generally, even though biased, the candidate websites have pretty good information

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Hillary_Clinton.htm

http://origin.barackobama.com/issues/

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Date: 2007-04-24 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiralshell.livejournal.com
Please please check out John Edwards. He is by far the best of the three -- on education, poverty, the war, health care, you name it. His positions are realistic, compassionate, and centered on the people. A real populist.
I think if we can elect Edwards, we can get our country back.

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